UK unemployment

There's lots of talk that UK unemployment is falling faster than expected, and the Bank of England have brought forward their forecast that it will first fall below 7% from 2016 to 2014. As the chart below shows the rate has steadily fallen since late 2011.

But this is also a nice exercise in the importance of time frame. Here's the same data from February 2009 (i.e. the month in which it went above 7% for the first time)

And here it is going back the last decade

 

I'm using UK unemployment rate aged 16+ (series code MGSX)

MA takes off

A belated update of MA reveals that the money supply in October jumped to a growth rate of 12.99% (compared to October 2012). The growth rate had been consistently between 7% and 8% since April 2013. This gives further evidence that the UK economy is picking up speed, and perhaps too much. More details in the data section.

(For some reason Google Drive seems unable to show charts, so I've copy and pasted the data into Excel and saved this as an image.)

 

The Yakiniku recovery

Last week saw the 9th quarterly meeting of Kaleidic Economics, and the topic was low growth scenarios, with a particular focus on Japan. 

In the paper we discuss the conflicting debates about the extent to which "the lost decade" is a myth, and whether this is a result of too much, or too little, policy response. The table below shows some typical literature, and interestingly demonstrates that even within the scame school of thought, there are differences of opinion.

 

Policy response

Loose

Tight

Lost decade?

Myth

(i)

?

(ii)

Kelly (2011)

Krugman (2013)?

Reality

(iii)

Powell (2002)

Shostak (2013)

(iv)

Krugman (1998)

Greenwood (2006)

 

Readers may also be interested in the chart showing Japanese GDP per capita relative to Germany, throughout the so-called lost decade [via http://www.tradingeconomics.com/]:

You can read the full report here.

New prediction market for 2014 Q1 NGDP

Last year we opened a few prediction markets relating to NGDP figures, and I was pleased to see that over 90 trades were made. They were very much a work in progress and since then we've been trying to think what the most useful types of question are. Here's an interesting post that outlines some of the key considerations:

  1. How far apart should the contracts be spaced? 3 months, 6 months, 12 months?
  2. Should the contract payout be proportional the level of NGDP or the rate of change of NGDP in some period?
  3. How far out should the contracts start? What are the most important expectations? Expectations about NGDP 6 months out? 12? 24?
  4. What BEA data should the contracts be based on? Advance, Primary, Secondary or Final NGDP estimates?

Our latest question is as follows:

It's important to explain it a little. There are several ways in which we can look at NGDP. Using the final estimate of 2012 Q4 we see the following (using Tables A1 and C1 - for our guide on UK National Accounts see here):

Level path (YBEU): 110.8

Percentage change, quarter on previous quarter (IHYN): -0.3

Percentage change, quarter on corresponding quarter of previous year (IHYO): 1.5

Absolute amount (YBHA): £388,350m

The reason we are interested in NGDP is because we are interested in NGDP level targeting. As Lars Christensen has pointed out in relation to our previous prediction market, it's the level of GDP that matters. But as Britmouse added, the level gets routinely rebased. (Update 28/6/13: for example, in a previous market we asked what the level of NGDP for 2012 would be. The second estimate (released May 2013) said 110.0, but the final estimate (released June 2013) said 105.2. The reason is that for the final release the base year changed from 2009 to 2010). That's not the only problem. From a policy perspective, we may be interested in how actual NGDP relates to, say, a 5% NGDP level target. But we'd then need to choose a starting point, and compile shadow statistics that project a 5% path on top. It would be possible to project 5% NGDP growth from the height of the boom onwards, and then operate a prediction market in terms of the absolute amount of NGDP with those projections in mind. However the reason we've decided against this is that (i) it involves an arbitrary choice of target growth and starting points; (ii) it would be hard to relate those values to the figures released by the ONS. In other words we want to focus squarley on the official ONS figures.

There is a widespread discussion about GDP growth and we want to tap into that. If you ask someone what's happening to GDP they're not going to be thinking in terms of levels (relative to 2009, or some other base year) or indeed the absolute amount. It's growth rates that are in the news. So the real decision is which growth rate - should we compare it to the previous quarter, or to the same quarter of the previous year? Let's look at the data:

The headline growth rate of GDP is in terms of quarter on quarter change, which in our case is the green line. The orange line shows the percentage change based on the same quarter of the previous year. To be clear, the Q4 2012 figure in the chart differs because the green line is relative to Q3 2012, whilst the orange line is relative to Q4 2011. Given how I've argued that we want to tie into the public awareness of growth rates it'd make sense to focus on quarter on quarter change (green). But it's not very interesting. The change relative to corresponding quarter (orange) tells a far richer story, with NGDP growing by around 5% from 1998 - 2007, collapsing to less than -4% in 2009, rebounding in early 2010, and then embarking on a downward trend. Critically this seems a closer fit to thinking in terms of an overall 5% GDP level target. To be sure we're not looking at the level path, so we can't tell from the chart above what NGDP "should" be now in order to get back to the 5% path. But if you want to use 5% as your benchmark you can easily see whether we're "catching up" or "falling behind". And indeed if you advocate a different NGDP level target (for example 2%) then you can still get meaningful insights from a prediction market focused on growth rates. 

So we're very much asking a question that is imperfect. But I want to stress that the purpose of the prediction market is to generate interest in NGDP expectations. It is *not* to serve as a policy tool. If you wanted to adopt an NGDP level target you'd need a far richer suite of institutional designs. You'd need the government to release NGDP indexed bonds. You'd need to agree on a level target. Etc. This prediction markets is intended as a very small step to contribute to the wider public debate. So focusing on an annual growth rate is seen as the most modest option. We can't switch debate from real GDP QoQ growth rates to nominal GDP level path relative to an arbitrary growth rate in one step. 

The reason we're using the primary release is because this is when there's most public interest in the figure, since it provides the first look. Of course it is likely to be revised in subsequent releases, but it makes sense to only focus on one. In addition the ONS intend to start including NGDP figures in their primary release. We've decided to exploit this happy coincidence.

There are several different ways in which we could ask the question. Previously we used a multiple choice answers to deliver a real time estimate of the probability of each possible outcome. Here were the options:

 

 

As it turns out, the second estimate (released February 27th) gave a figure of 109.8. But the third estimate (released March 27th) revised this to 110. The problem isn't just ambiguity about which release would be used, it is because if the "true" value falls close to the border between different options, you lose a significant part of the predictive power. It places a higher burden on the question design (and indeed the question designer!). With that in mind this time the question works in a slightly different way. We set an opening price of £50 and this is scaled by 0.1 to imply an expected growth rate of 5.0%. Traders can either buy or sell shares relating to that probability value, and in doing so move the market. 

It remains to be seen whether there's enough interest in this market to warrant a separate one for every quarter. I suspect that we will open up a market for 2015 Q1, for 2016 Q1, etc. We'll respond to market demand. For now though jump in and start trading. If the Bank of England's Monetary Policy Committee incorporate the insights of this prediction market as a complement to their current sources of information, decision making would be improved. Indeed if they set a rule by which they would alter make interest rate decisions such that this market stays at 5%, we'd be getting somewhere...

Guide to using the UK National Accounts

Update (March 2016): The ONS have re-designed their website and whilst it may make it easier to navigate, the links below are no longer valid. I will update soon.

In the past I've struggled a great deal trying to navigate the ONS website, and although it's improving I thought I'd write a brief guide to understanding the National Accounts. Although GDP is measured on a quarterly basis, "new" figures are released each month. This page is for people that see a figure being reported in the news, and want to know where it's come from. In addition, I hope to raise awareness of Nominal GDP, and how to find this in the official data.

The table below shows a stable link for the three different releases. By finding the current month, you will see wherabouts the ONS are in the cycle. The Preliminary estimates tend to get more headlines because they are the first indication of the shape of the economy. So April, July, October and January tend to be when GDP figures are in the headlines. But these are subject to revision, and it's quite possible that what gets announced as a "recession" turns out not to be one.

Also, don't forget that even the "final estimate" is subject to revisions. For example, when the Final estimate of the Q2 data is released in September we tend to compare it to the Second estimate, released in August. But the September release may also adjust the data for previous quarters, such as Q1.

Calender of GDP releases Preliminary Estimate
(First Estimate)
Second Estimate Quarterly National Accounts
(Final Estimate)
Q1
(Jan, Feb, Mar)
April May June
Q2
(Apr, May, Jun)
July August September
Q3
(Jul, Aug, Sep)
October November December
Q4
(Oct, Nov, Dec)
January February March

 

When you click on the link you will have two options:

  1. If you want to view the data:
    • Statistical bulletin > Download PDF
  2. If you want to download the data (or see data over a longer period):
    • Reference Tables > Quarterly National Accounts Data Table

The preliminary estimate doesn't contain the same amount of information as the second and third. I believe that this will soon change, but for now:

  • Preliminary estimate
    • See Table B1 - the second column from the right shows "Gross Domestic Product at market prices"
    • The headline figure that gets reported in the news is the quarterly growth rate compared to the previous quarter - series code IHYQ
  • Second estimate and third estimate
    • See Table A1 - this shows annual levels, quartely levels, annual change, quarterly change (compared to previous quarter), and quarterly change (compared to previous year). The headline figure has the same series code as in the preliminary estimate - IHYQ. The third column is showing Real GDP (i.e. GDP at market prices).
    • We can also see estimates for NGDP (i.e. GDP at current prices) in the first column. 
    Note that:
    NGDP = Real GDP + GDP Deflator
    IHYO = IHYR + IHYU
    You can also do this for annual figures (YoY change)
    IHYM = IHYP + IHYS
    Or quarterly figures (QoQ change)
    IHYN = IHYQ + IHYT 
    • For full details of NGDP see Table C1. This shows "Gross Domestic Product at market prices" but measured in current prices
      • The comparable figure to the headline GDP figure is the "percentage change , latest quarter on previous quarter" - series code IHYN
      • The figure that ties in best to NGDP targets is "percentage change , latest quarter on corresponding quarter of previous year" - series code IHYO
    • Table A2 can be useful because it shows absolute levels - if you want to verify the growth rates you can calculate them yourself from this data
    • Table F shows Gross Fixed Capital Formation which is essentially investment

For more, here's a guide by the Chief Economist of the ONS.

An alternative way to find annual NGDP data is to look at "Money GDP" from HM Treasury, which goes back to 1955. 

Exercise

On April 25th 2013 The Guardian wrote:

George Osborne has welcomed news that Britain's economy expanded by a stronger-than-expected 0.3% in the first quarter of 2013, avoiding a triple-dip recession.

As the first estimate from the Office for National Statistics showed that a healthy performance from the services sector helped GDP growth to beat the 0.1% expected by City pundits, the chancellor said it was evidence that the coalition's policies were helping to "build an economy fit for the future".

Using the information in this post you should be able to go to download that very release, and see where the reported 0.3% figure comes from. 

2013 NGDPLT Summit: Copenhagen

 

The 8th Quarterly Meeting will be held in Copenhagen and take a detailed look at the theoretical desirability and political feasibility of NGDP level targeting being adopted in the UK. It is an attempt to bring together a broad group of people interested in Market Monetarism.

Here's the agenda:

Monday May 13th 

12:30pm: Meet for lunch

Then: Tour of Danske Bank

Then: Visit to CEPOS for discussion

Session 1: Theory
  • Why free market economists should take NGDP targets seriously
  • Some Austrian considerations for NGDP targets
  • What would Hayek say about NGDP targets?
Session 2: Policy
  • Towards a market in NGDP futures
  • Political strategy - how should we be positioned in the political debate
  • An actual strategy for implementing reforms to UK monetary policy 

Then: Dinner

Tuesday May 14th 

Depart.

Attendance is strictly by invitation only.

Some public sector net investment scenarios...

In a previous post on government spending I looked at public sector net investment from 2003/04 until 2011/12. Here's an updated version using the Budget 2013 forecasts through 2016/17.

The decline in 2012/13 is immediately apparent, but it's important to see that by 2014/15 spending is forecast to return to it's 2007 level. The debate is really about the the severity of the contraction since the 2010 general election, the extent to which that was an inevitable consequence of a 2009 fiscal stimulus, and the one off factors (such as transfer of Royal Mail assets) that distort the figures. What strikes me though is that I don't know any economists that would advise the government to do the above.

The chart below includes 4 scenarios:

  • The purple line (scenario 1) is the arch Keynesian "keep on spending until the economy recovers and to hell with the debt!" It's what I suspect many Keynesians believe, albeit are very reluctant to admit to. 
  • The blue line (scenario 2) treats the 2009 stimulus as a temporary injection, and maintains investment at its pre stimulus levels
  • The green line (scenario 3) acknowledges that the 2008 - 2011 spike put public debt on a new course, and therefore mirrors the rise in order to steadily return to 2004 levels
  • The orange line (scenario 4) is an ultra austerian desire to shrink the state, allow depreciation to eat up the existing capital stock, and flat line with negative net investment
  • The red line (actual) is taken from the March 2013 Budget.

I'd be really interested to know various preference orderings. My intuition is that scenario 3 would be preferred to the actual by both sides of the debate. Indeed one would think that the serious debate would be between scenarios 2 and 3. 

Source: 2003/04 - 2010/11 from PSF1 of the Public Sector Finances.

What's happened to government investment?

I'm not an expert on this data but I find spending figures as a proportion of GDP deeply flawed (since they're driven by implausible growth forecasts). So I've been trying to navigate the ONS website to find some raw figures on government investment. Here's two ways to look at it:

  • General Government GFCF - Table F of the national accounts (see here for a guide to using the national accounts, and here for our comparison of General government and private GFCF).

  • Public Sector Net Invesment (excluding financial interventions) - Table PSFN1 of the Public Sector Finances (see here for Sep 2012). If anyone knows how to download these figures in Excel, please let me know!

 

The point I'd make is that the dramatic cuts seen made by the coalition government (i.e. from 2010 onwards) are only "cuts" relative to the time of the fiscal stimulus of 2009. When Keynesian economists advocate fiscal stimulus they are arguing for temporary deficit financed spending. Therefore by definition a stimulus will be "withdrawn" at some point in the future. The argument against a stimulus is that it may be withdrawn prior to the economy recovering. If you say "don't withdraw it until the economy recovers" then to what extent is that a temporary programme? And both sides would acknowledge that all else equal, the higher the existing debt level the more dangerous a "permanent" fiscal stimulus is. Let's not also forget that part of the 2009 fiscal stimulus brought forward capital spending due to take place in 2010-2012. It's like me asking to be paid 2 weeks early and then in a fortnight time complaining about having a pay cut. 

I'd love someone to point out errors in my interpretation and use of the data (in particular I'd love to find a stable link to these indicators). I just think that although analysis like this is far more sophisticated than my own, to only start looking at what's happened since 2009/10 is deeply misleading. Keynesians - you got the stimulus you asked for. If you want another one I'm willing to debate that. But you can't simply pretend that the first one never happened!

UK quarterly NGDP

I've just been taking a look at the second estimate of GDP. Here's what quarterly NGDP looks like (compared to quarter of previous quarter). 

Series code: IHYO.

It's becoming increasingly hard to argue that expectations should switch to a new lower NGDP growth rate, rather than policymakers should ensure that NGDP reflects estasblished expectations. For more see Britmouse.

P.S. Here's the forecast YOY growth of NGDP from the March 2012 OBR report:

Can we measure uncertainty?

Last week saw the 7th quarterly meeting of Kaleidic Economics, and the theme was uncertainty. The report is available here. In it, we argue that attempts to measure uncertainty have insurmountable methodological flaws, but that doesn’t mean the Austrian school cannot contribute to a contemporary and progressive research agenda. In particular, we pose several questions relating to how "regime uncertainty" can be operationalised:

  • To what extent is regime uncertainty an extreme form of policy uncertainty? At what point do policy changes threaten the “regime”?
  • In terms of tax reform people tend to like changes provided they are anticipated. Very few people want the tax code to stay the way it is. Therefore stability is less important than predictability. Therefore can policy changes reduce uncertainty, provided they’re communicated clearly and help form expectations?3
  • Regime uncertainty is typically applied to the US economy during the Great Depression, and the “Great Recession”. It’s also been applied to the UK economy. On the surface, one would expect it to be especially pronounced during coups and other radical constitutional changes. It would be interesting to see cross country comparisons and detailed case studies
  • The basic idea is that a stable investment climate is important in generating confidence. But what if the present investment climate is inhospitable? To what extent can regime uncertainty lead to good economic outcomes?
  • Is it the uncertainty that’s the problem, or the prospect of worse economic policies? In crude terms can we compare regime uncertainty with regime shittiness?
  • Uncertainty doesn’t disappear when times are good, so what can we learn about the issue by comparing recessions with times of economic growth?
  • Does regime uncertainty mean that investors hold off on investment (this is argued by Bernanke 1983), or alter the types of investment they make? 

We also draw attention to measures of private investment, which we've updated:

Addendum: In the comments section Nicolas makes an important point about measuring regime uncertainty. It reminded me that I had intended to discuss this post by Lars Christensen in the report. Lars says,

My favourite source for a numerical measure of these uncertainties is the conservative Heritage Foundation’s Economic Freedom Index. We can use the sub-index for “Rule of Law” in the Economic Freedom Index as a proxy for “regime uncertainty”.

I think this makes a lot of sense, but I find it interesting to note that (i) this measure is only calculated on an annual basis; (ii) only exists from 1995; and (iii) "property rights" is on a 20 point scale so it doesn't change much. So I'm not sure how much help it is at assigning a causal role to regime uncertainty during recessions. For example, here's the "regime uncertainty" for the US since 2004:

Lars has some other great posts on regime uncertainty here and here (written by Alex Salter).

 

What is general government expenditure?

There is some debate at the moment about the most appropriate way to measure government expenditure. I've been especially interested in understanding the differences between the figures reported by HM Treasury, and those published by Eurostat. After several emails with the Office for National Statistics, I now understand where the Eurostat data comes from. This article provides an explanation.

General government expenditure can be found using the following steps: 

  1. Go to the ONS release for "Maastricht Supplementary Data Tables" (the most recent one is January 2013 and can be found here. As far as I can tell there's no stable URL for them so I would suggest entering "Maastricht" into the search box of the index page for all publications).
  2. Click on "Data in this release" in the top right corner.
  3. Download the excel file for "ESA Table 25 Quarterly Non-Financial Accounts of General Government Expenditure".
  4. Select Tab 2501 and look for the column "Total government expenditure" (possibly column T).

Here is a chart showing expenditure from January 2006 - December 2012:

 

Note that this measure of general government expenditure includes transfer payments, and it also includes the income from sales of goods and services. The latter are subtracted in order to generate Total Managed Expenditure (TME), a series that is not published by the ONS. 

The growth rate of MA halves

Apologies for not updating our data section as often as we'd like, but October figures are now out and show an interesting decline in the growth rate of MA, from +8% in July, August and September, to +4% in October 2012. M4ex continues to grow at a palsy rate of >4%, whilst the old measure of broad money, M4 continues to contract.

 

See here for more details.

Imagining an Optimal Language Area

Following the 5th Quarterly Meeting of Kaleidic Economics, we are releasing a report called "Imagining an Optimal Language Area". In it, we ask how the Euro has lasted this long; look at the legal implications of a Greek exit; contrast devaluation and deflation as misplaced panaceas; and discuss the possibilities for private money. 

We also use a chart to show some of the endgame scenarios, and reproduce the image below:

The resource cost of a gold standard

We are currently incurring costs akin to having a gold standard – in that we are using gold for monetary purposes, as an inflation hedge. But we don’t get any of the benefits. 

In my City AM column on September 4th 2012, I discussed the resource costs of a gold standard. This was triggered by reading Lawrence White's estimate that the benefits of a commodity standard outweigh the costs once inflation hits around 4%. Due to space constraints, the calculations were not included in that article. I thought I'd provide them here. The basic analysis is (White, 1999, p.42-50).

Following Friedman and White we first need to know the ratio of gold to money. This is equal to the typical reserve ratio (like White I used 2%) multiplied by the ratio of currency notes and demand deposits to M2 (52.7%), plus the ratio of coins to M2 (0.18%).

G/M = R + Cp/M = [(R/N)+D][N+(D/M)] + Cp/M

(Where R is bank reserves, Cp is gold coins held by the public, M is M2, (R/N)+D is the ratio between gold reserves and demand liabilities, (N+D)/M is the ratio of notes and deposits (but not coins) to M2).

Assuming the marginal reserve ratio is equal to the average reserve ratio, the resource cost is equal to this ratio (1.2%) multiplied by the change in money supply that would keep the price level unchanged, multiplied by the ratio of M2 to GDP.

ΔG/Y = (ΔG/ΔM) (ΔM/M) (M/Y)

I used 4% for the former (as a rule of thumb), and 176% for the latter (from the World Bank). All in this suggests that a gold standard would cost 0.085% of GDP, which amounts to around £31bn, or £512 per capita

Back of the envelope calculations, to be sure. I encourage others to give it a better stab.

Towards a NGDP futures market

Kaleidic Economics has been flirting with prediction markets since our launch. I have also been intruiged by Scott Sumner's proposal for an NGDP futures market (see this proposal for the Adam Smith Institute), and the impact this would have on the discretion of central bankers. As I said in my brief review for Money Marketing:

Targeting the level removes a large amount of discretion from the Bank of England. Monetary policy stops being an arbitrary policy lever and provides a macroeconomic foundation upon which economic activity can build. 

Some time ago I set up a prediction market for NGDP using Inkling Markets. Here are the details:

The main problem with this is the difficulty of finding NGDP figures for the UK. Britmouse provides this useful guide to UK GDP but my suggestion is to start off with Table A1 of the Quarterly National Accounts (published by the Office for National Statistics). It would be handy if there was a stable link for the most recent release, but the best I can find is going to "All releases of Quarterly National Accounts". You can then click on the most recent, and eventually "select series from this dataset". Table A1 has what you need.

I think that it's easiest to think of NGDP in terms of quarterly growth rates that are compared to the previous year. This was what I had in mind when I posed the question, and here are the components (the red and blue lines should sum to the orange one):

NGDP = Real GDP + GDP Deflator

IHYO = IHYR + IHYU

The chart below shows the composition of NGDP over the last decade.

You can also do this for annual figures (YoY change)

IHYM = IHYP + IHYS

Or quarterly figures (QoQ change)

IHYN = IHYQ + IHYT

As Lars Christensen rightly pointed out it is the level of NGDP rather than a particular growth rate that "market monetarists" care about. One of the downsides of NGDP targetting is that people tend to think in terms of growth rates rather than levels. But that can change. Therefore it would probably be better to focus on the level of NGDP:

The prediction market question should probably be in relation to this figure, therefore Kaleidic Economics will endeavour to update it on a quarterly basis as part of our data. The series code is YBEU. I'm open to suggestions for what that question should be - for example an annual figure on an annual basis? Or a quarterly figure on a quarterly basis? For now I've done the following trial:

Finally, for the absolute amount of NGDP: 

  • Table C1: Quarterly National Accounts - Gross domestic product: expenditure at current market prices = YBHA

 Other Kaleidic resources:

Thoughts on UK employment data

I've just received by email the following chart from Ewen Stewart, of Investec (source). It shows long terms changes in UK employment by sector.

As he points out, some of the striking features include:

  • The decline in Manufacturing 
  • The cyclicality of Retail, Construction, and IT & Comms
  • The structural increases in Health and Social Work, and Education

It certainly ties into the view that the UK economy has been shifting from a manufacturing to a strong dependency on public services. Finance and Insurance is minor compared to state funded industries.

The April 2012 Labour Market Statistics also provide some interesting insights. Table EMP13 shows employment by industry sector, and I wanted to see what's been going on during the "recovery". Unfortunately they only provide 3 years worth of data, so it doesn't help us compare the boom and the bust. This would be useful though, because Paul Krugman has argued that US employment fell in a balanced way across all sectors (I can't find the presentation online but it was very simlar to this(.pdf)). This would suggest that the recession is due to an aggregate demand shock.

For the UK, however, there are clear structural differences. Some industries are contracting, others are gorwing (and indeed quite strongly).

To see this in more detail I focused on the five biggest sectors (those that employ more than 2m people each) and what does it show? Massive falls in Construction, but clear differences between the different sectors. 

 I also wondered about Public vs. Private sector employment. Table EMP04 provides a breakdown, and I've just taken the absolute numbers (note that private sector employment is on the RHS, it is around 80% of total employment whilst public sector is around 20%).

It is likely that these numbers underestimate the scale of the public sector, because if a local council outsources cleaning to a private contractor, for example, this will be treated the same as people switching from public to private provision of goods. We see a large increase in public sector employment from 1999 - 2005, and this isn't simply because it's growing from a lower base. During this period public sector rises from 20.2% of total employment to 21.3%. But the ratio then inverts with (relatively) high private sector growth just prior to the financial crisis.

The fiscal stimulus of 2008 led to a spike in private sector jobs, but most of those have now been reduced. This is exactly what a "stimulus" is supposed to do in theory - provide a temporary boost. But it seems odd that people complain about falling public sector employment, now that we're 4 years after the stimulus. It's impossible to continue that temporary growth permanently. In reality what we see is the failure of that policy. At the very least, the unwinding should be treated as part of the costs.